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Intel Core 2 Duo E4400 Dual Core Processor LGA775 Conroe 2.00GHZ 800FSB 2MB Retail

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Subject: E4300 vs E4400
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Ryan_L Apr 26, 2007 10:59 AM Reply | Bookmark
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Question: Which to get?

I ma very torn between the two. Orginally I was holding out for the E4400 to come out. I was assuming that the x10 multiplier would make a differance over the x9 multiplier of the E4300. It is also clocked slightly faster (200Mhz). However from what I have read (what little information is out there), it doesn't seem to make much differance. The x10 just lets you use a crappier MB and RAM, but I plan on getting a DS3 which by all reports is a monster, so a moot point there. Also the x9 it seems still lets you use a pretty low FSB and RAM as it is. By all accounts the E4300 will make 2Ghz without even blinking making the 200 Mhz differance a bit moot. Also from what I have read they both have about the same top end (very few reports, like 2). In conclusion the E4300 is about 40$ cheaper.

However all of this is based on speculation and a handful of reviews. There are some recorded E4300 OC numbers over at Hard OCP, but of course none for the E4400. I know they really have only been released for like 4 days, but has anyone bought one of these and gotten some results?

Right now I am thinking the E4300 is a smarter choice. However I was waiting for the E4400, and I doubt it will be worse, maybe I should take a chance and be an early adopter?

Anyway any advice or comments would be appreciated.


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rdurand - GO CANUCKS Apr 26, 2007 11:32 AM Reply | Bookmark
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I would spend a little more and get a E6300 which overclocks very well and has a 1066 FSB instead of just 800.

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olympic Apr 26, 2007 11:45 AM Reply | Bookmark
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They are the exact same chip except for the multiplier and they are cut from the same silicon so they are likely to top out at the same OC. The 4300's 9x multi will max out the chip with under 400MHz FSB which is not a problem at all for the DS3 and some DDR2-800 RAM. A DS3+E4300+OCZ Platinum XTC PC2-6400 for around $400= one sweet deal. I'd only recommend the 4400 for someone who isn't overclocking or has a MB/RAM incapable or reaching atleast 350FSB.

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FlashFlood Apr 26, 2007 11:49 AM Reply | Bookmark
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I agree, the e4300 is the smarter choice. Youre basically paying 40$ for potential overclocks, as the e4400 has a max OC potential of (400x10) 4ghz and the e4300 has (400x9) 3.6ghz. Realistically, both are improbable. I would look at both CPUs topping out at about 3.5ghz at 1.5v.

You might have an easier time overclocking with the e4400, but I would just spend the 40$ difference on superior matching parts. If the difference is 40$ for non-D9 ram or D9 ram for 40$ more, why not get the Micron ram? Or take that 40$ and buy a better video card.. Or splurge on a good soundcard.. or something.. Anything! You only really need 3ghz for any application. You dont need to overspend on a CPU.

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danielson99 Apr 26, 2007 12:09 PM Reply | Bookmark
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The best thing about either of these 2 cpu's is that they allow a person to acheive a decent OC without having a huge FSB. This means that a person has absolutely NO need for DDRII 800 Ram, as it will not perform any better than 667 Ram and only cost you more money. Even the Corsair VS 667 Ram will handle FSB's that will take these cpu's up to 3ghz and beyond. That's the beauty of these, they make for a poor mans corvette. $135 for a E4300, $104 for 2GB Ram, $135 for a mobo, $185 for an X1950Pro and for $550 you have the core for an awesome machine. Can't beat that. I would definitely go for the E4300, the money could be spent elsewhere to make your machine that much better. After all, you're buying these cheap cpu's because they are cheap aren't you

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Ryan_L Apr 26, 2007 01:20 PM Reply | Bookmark
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Yeah thats pretty much what I was looking at. 134$ for the E4300, 129$ for 2GB Ram (I was thinking of the 800 Mushkin rather than the Corsair 667, as I wasn't sure how high it would have to go/could go, and its like 25$ difference, might be better for future as well), 150$ for the DS3 motherboard, and 190$ for the X1950Pro (which is kinda killing me as I wish I had a better choice out there, 8600's seem to not be doing so well).

Anyway I probably should have gotten it awhile ago if I was going with the E4300. I guess I let the excitement get in the way of common sense. As soon as I heard about a 2Ghz with x10 multi conroe under 200$, I pretty much jumped the gun. I would be lucky to hit 3.5 on air and volts on either, and the DS3 I heard can hit 450-500 FSB anyway. Useful maybe on a x7 multi but pretty moot now I guess.

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Ryan_L Apr 26, 2007 01:24 PM Reply | Bookmark
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a little off topic, I may be missing something here.. but what is D9 RAM?

I was currently looking at the:
Mushkin EM PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-12 240PIN DIMM Dual Channel Memory Kit

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danielson99 Apr 26, 2007 01:40 PM Reply | Bookmark
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Here's something to think about. The C2D's at the same frequency perform almost identical. Meaning, an E4300 at 3.5ghz and an E6600 at 3.5ghz will give you very similar performance, simply divide the ghz by the cost of the CPU to determine the price/performance ratio. If you do this you end up with
E4300 costing you $38.28/Ghz
E6300 costing you $56.85/Ghz
E6600 costing you $77.14/Ghz

so you get the point. there is nothing that even comes close to the E4300, which when is overclocked to 3.5ghz(if you get it that high) will perform on par with all it's bigger brothers. (lets not take virtualization into account here for arguments sake).
Just as a reference....the X2 3600 costs a person roughly $29.00/Ghz, making it the true king of budget performance, albeit one that does not reach the performance heights of the E4300...but does come close.

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SamCSamDo Apr 26, 2007 01:53 PM Reply | Bookmark
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D9 RAM is short for Micron D9GMH,the newest DDR2 RAM chips.D9's are preferred over their predecessors, the Elpida AG-6E RAM chips, because the D9's have more overclocking potential and can run at a faster FSB.

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