http://www.shaw.ca/Internet/newpackages/

This message was modified by the poster at 06 12, 2011 01:18 AM

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250gb cap, that'll cover my needs.

Hmmm unlimited 250 eh. Not bad for that price.

Whoa. Id get warp speed for what I'm paying for extreme and get a 400gb cap! Nice!

not worth it until phase 2 comes. by then novus will have updated its packages and prices again.

This message was modified by the poster at 05 25, 2011 07:54 PM

If only videotron followed suit and decided to increase the caps too...

At Phase 2: 250mbps down and 15mbps up for $99
Wow i will definitely be trying that out. :D

What shaw doesn't mention however is that putting 250mbps through a consumer router will not work very well, for that speed you will need either pfSense or a business class router.

The pricing says "Add Legacy TV... Add Personal TV", does that mean its not the actual pricing for the combo... What the heck, the charts is aiming to confuse people into thinking its cheap.

The way I see it, its going to be about $150 a month for unlimited 250. Which given the UBB they wanted to shove on us isn't too bad.

250 Mbps

15 Mbps

Unlimited


YUMMY!

LOL, I want that speed! Is there any competitors out there with similar specs but cheaper? Fiber Optics FTW. Telus better step up so they can lower Shaw's prices.

Shaw probably wondered why they suddenly lost like 50% of their internet customers a while back. We'll have to see what Teksavvy offers when they roll around.

Can anyone say "node congestion"?

I switched to DSL from cable because of it.

With greater speeds and unlimited usage to boot, I expect the problem is only going to get worst.

I disagree with the idea of caps and overages, but also disagree with 24/7 unlimited usage on an already very over-subscribed network.

On an over-subscribed network, there needs to be some form of peak hour bandwidth management in order to maintain quality of service.

I'd much rather pay $99 for a solid, guaranteed 10/10 connection than a 250/15 connection with peak-hour slowdowns and ping spikes.

^^ That is why I use dual ISPs. You get the best of both worlds. Traffic that needs committed data rates get the DSL lines, and river traffic gets the cable lines. Works great.

Shaw is switching to fiber optic. Some Vancouver suburbs already have it installed and they get a free trial of it. Those lucky people gets a gigabit internet for no extra charge. There's also a neighborhood in Calgary that has it too.

by the time anyone can have it they will probably be the most expensive as usual. some competitors already offer fiber speeds all they need to do is adjust rates and limits.

shaw is having problems and this just one step in recovery. they have already given up on cellular and from my Rogers contact are trying to offload what they have to them. that is huge as they have a large amount of spectrum in alberta already built.

i do not think those prices will be able to last long with competitors trying to do the same thing in the same period.

This message was modified by the poster at 05 25, 2011 10:03 PM

Not everyone lives along the Canada line or in the sporadic towers downtown (or in the two Coquitlam towers running off City fiber). For those stuck with just plain cable or DSL these are some much needed alternatives.

I'm still kind of shocked that they're rolling these varied tiers out. We'll have to see what this spurs telus and the other providers to do.

I really hope Videotron follows.

your missing the point. shaw is moving away from the same old analog crap. all the other providers have had the same plans for years. and some are already their but just have not pushed the button. yes novus is for only a few people but they are not alone and they are not the biggest carrier with fiber.

all the carriers are trying to match over seas carriers but in their own timeline. they need to milk as much money out of you and delay the inevitable as long as possible to build the damned thing. with the sale of their spectrum shaw will have a huge amount of money to do this but others will as well. telus started building out their fibre in bc 4 months ago(officially) and alberta will be next.

telus has more money and manpower to have these speeds long before shaw does. they will match and beat all of shaws offers easily as well.

i am not a telus lover in fact as a business i hate them for several reasons. but the simple fact is they are a powerhouse no other company can compete with any longer.

Nice, I would prefer no caps but if they were doing caps all I wanted was something reasonable and 250 gigs is reasonable for me. I've been using about 150 gigs about since feb.

Surprisingly, it seems that with those new higher caps, Shaw seems to have "somewhat" listened to the demands of the people. The unlimited light I guess isn't bad for people who surf at a minimum while doing other things whenever they're not (possibly constantly backing up stuff or what not). The demand for better packages for those who want to upload and downloading faster with the broadband packages is very nice.

I guess my early opinion is that good job to Shaw for finally increasing the cap back up, but when time comes when this rolls out, something tells me that the Vancouver Teksavvy will have something up their sleeves and i'll be joining them instead.

Is my math right? Unlimited lite running 24/7 yields ~2.4 TB/month?

I gotta say this is going in the right direction for Shaw.
They sure did listen to us.
Extreme from 100GB to 250GB is more than enough for me.

WOW...

My prediction for videotron will be cap pass from 100gb to 105gb

This message was modified by the poster at 05 26, 2011 01:27 AM

I thought it was my understanding that the CRTC and the government said that the ISP's in Canada were not allowed to impose bandwidth caps?

So why is Shaw increasing these "caps" when they are not even allowed to enforce them?
I know when I called Shaw to repair my line the agent told me I needed to upgrade my line to avoid over data usage charges, I basically told him to shove it and good luck charging me on that.... now was I wrong?

Cheers,

Think you misunderstood. There will always be caps, regardless of how much it is.
You were thinking about UBB. By increasing the caps, by a huge amount, you have more room to work with.

I know I will never use 250GB in a month I average 150GB/mnth, but knowing that I'm going from 100Gb to 250GB is a good thing.

I have that extra that I can use, without worrying too much about UBB, which is still coming in, just not with low bandwidth caps.

Good move for Shaw.

Ok I swear I read somewhere that they were not allowed to charge if you use more bandwidth. Since we use netflix alot we went WAY over our "cap" and said they were going to charge $0.20 per gig over our allowed 100gb.

It was in the newspaper either the Vancouver Sun or The Province. Crap I need to find this b/c I am not going to pay anymore then how much we already over pay compared to the world for the net.

Prices are not changing, just caps and speed increase.
Shaw Extreme caps are going up. Now the new plans which will replace Extreme is Broadband 50.

Current Extreme 25/2.5 cap 100GB to increase to 250GB
Phase 1 will be 50/3 cap 400GB
Phase 2 will be 50/5 cap 400GB

You can pay more for faster speeds, higher monthly caps. There is unlimited service coming, with some really nice speeds.

I have Warp right now so I'll be getting the Broadband 100 for $10 more than what I pay for warp right now and get 50 extra mb download and 2 extra upload. And that's just phase 1, move to phase 2 and I'm getting 50MB extra download and an extra 7MB Upload over the warp I have now for $10 more. Pretty sweet.

*not to mention the cap increase to 500GB which is enough for me.

The thing to keep in mind though is what modem you currently have. The Motorola SB 5100 a lot of people have is only DOCSIS 2.0 compliant. this translatews to a maximum throughput of 35Mbps downstream. So to even get a lot of the speeds in the new tiers a lot of users will have to replace their modems.

Source for my statement
http://www.speedguide.net/routers/motorola-sb5100-sb5101-surfboard-5100-docsis-20-6

This message was modified by the poster at 05 26, 2011 07:30 AM